About

My name is Michael David Gantt.  I was born in 1951 in Columbia, South Carolina, and live near there now.  My friends and family call me Mike or Michael.  I follow Jesus Christ and I write this blog for the sake of His followers.

Jesus is our life.  He is Israel’s Messiah and humanity’s Savior.  He created the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them – including you.  Two thousand years ago, He died on the cross to demonstrate the depth of His love for all human beings – including you.  He was raised from the dead three days later to demonstrate the enduring nature and indestructible power of that love for all people – including you.  God is love.

I do not take donations. I don’t have anything to sell you.  There’s no church or other group for you to join.  I don’t sell ads, and I don’t even keep a mailing list.  (On giving money to others, however, see this.)  I freely give you through this blog what was freely given to me: the knowing of the truth of God.  The last thing I want is a following.  Rather, I want you to follow Him.

I believe the Bible, just as the Jews and Christians have handed it down to us – that is, the Old Testament and the New Testament, which are really one eternal testament – an eternal testament to Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah of Israel and Savior of the world.  You will read many things on this blog that can rightly be called orthodox Judaism or traditional Christianity; other things may sound new and different to you.  But I assure you that in all cases, the truth of what I write will be confirmed not only by the Holy Spirit to your conscience, but by these Scriptures as well.  The Bible is true.

This blog is solely my work and I alone am responsible for its contents.  I am not affiliated with any church or other group.  The “Nonchurchgoer” in the title refers to me as well as to the people for whom I’m writing.  Churchgoers, of course, are welcome to read it, too – and I hope they will.  Because I write for nonchurchgoers, I do not use a lot of biblical references on this blog.  For those who would like that, I write a companion blog called Christian Leaders and the Kingdom of God.  My blogs also include Bible Study Notes for the Kingdom of God,  Current Events in Light of the Kingdom of God and Reference Shelf for the Kingdom of God.

I don’t claim copyright to anything I write on this site.  You are free to use my material however you wish – with or without attribution.  (See official notice to this effect at bottom of this page.)  As for material copyrighted by others to which I link or that is otherwise accessed here, we should all respect their rights.

Because I write multiple blogs, publish multiple podcasts, and participate in multiple social media platforms, I write a periodic newsletter for people who want to be kept aware of all my ministry activities.  If you’re interested in receiving that newsletter by e-mail, see this page.  [Note: I only published this newsletter for three months: from May 10, 2014 to August 16, 2014.  It had become too time-consuming relative to all the other writing and recording work I was doing.]

I have no exclusive access to the truths I write.  I write simply as one sinner to another.  The good news is that God does not leave us in our sins but shows us the way, and gives us the power, to know Him and become more like Him – if we live each day conscious of His watchful, loving, and righteous eyes.

My blogs will be successful the day you stop reading them because you are listening to Him instead.  In fact, turn to Him now.  You need no special words.  He sees your heart; He always has.  Live life with your heart as an open book before Him, seeking only to think, say, and do those things that are pleasing to Him.  Then He will make Himself more and more known to you with each passing day.  My work will have been done.

To God be the glory!

Related post:  Why Should You Believe Me?

[There is a little more about my background in this post.  Beyond that, there is a category of posts called Personal Testimony in my Current Events in Light o the Kingdom of God blog.]

Comment Policy

I welcome challenge and criticism; the truths I proclaim will withstand testing.  If you’d rather not identify yourself, that’s okay, as I do allow comments to be made anonymously.

I only delete comments that are spam or excessively profane.  The only editing I do of comments is to remove profanity as an alternative to deleting the entire comment.

Where a response is sought, I try to give one in a timely manner.  Otherwise, I only respond if I think it will be helpful.  In cases where there is no reconciliation of views, I prefer to let the challenger have the last word.  May the Spirit of Jesus Christ prevail and may His truth make progress in all our hearts.

If you like what I write, just practice it – you don’t need say anything to me about it or make yourself known to me. I don’t need your approval and you don’t need mine.  Walk before God and walk with God – that’s what matters.

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82 Responses to About

  1. John Spurrier says:

    Mike,

    It’s great to see your new blog. It will take me a while to get through much of what you have already written/archived. But it is encouraging to be working through much of your thoughts and writings.

    As you know, I have been in a period of trial and adversity for nearly a year and a half now. I have done much reading in that time frame, longing to know what God has for me in the way of growth and maturing through these tough times. As you no doubt know, we have the opportunity to become more and more like Christ through adversity and trial than we do in ease and prosperity. But that does not make it too much easier to go through the trial. For as I implied, we often do not know precisely what God has for us in the trial, and often do not understand it fully until we are past it and looking back. Tozer calls it the Dark Ministry of the Night, Os Hillman calls it A Joseph Pit Experience. My drive through this time is to deepen my intimacy with the Lord to a degree far beyond what most Christians are willing to seek, given the suffering and hardships that come with a much closer walk with the Lord (Philippians 3:10). I have benefited much from the writings of Watchman Nee, Fenelon, Guyon, Molinos, Brother Lawrence, Steve Farrar, Andrew Murray and others. And yet, as you would no doubt agree, God’s Word itself is the most encouraging and instructing reading a person can do during trial.

    I could go on at great length, but will wrap it up for now by saying I am encouraged and happy to see your blog, and will continue to work through it as I get the chance. Thanks for your continued help and prayers as I seek God’s ongoing purpose and path for my life.

    John S.

  2. Dave Embrey says:

    Hey Mike, These are really good! Keep me up to date.

  3. Mike says:

    Dave, I don’t keep a mailing list, but you can keep up using RSS subscription. Best to you and Nancy.

  4. Mike,
    I liked this part: “I do not take donations. I don’t have anything to sell you. There’s no church or other group for you to join. I don’t sell ads, and I don’t even keep a mailing list. I freely give you through this blog what was freely given to me: the knowing of the truth of God. The last thing I want is a following. Rather, I want you to follow Him.”

    Question of clarification. Is this blog a guide to Jesus BY a nonchurchgoer, or TO nonchurchgoers? This English language of ours can be pretty vague at times.

  5. So… if you’ve been a Christian for so long, why don’t you go to church. Yes, you have problems with most individual churches; I get that. I read your letter (to my paster and Minister Friends). But as imperfect as it is, the church is the church, and you have an obligation to meet with fellow believers (saints) on a regular basis. Where and when you think God wants you to meet is up to you of course.

    I feel like I am preaching to the choir. Surely you are familiar with the following verses: “And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another” (Hebrews 10:24-25a)

    So… what’s your excuse?

    • Mike says:

      I don’t need an excuse. My reason is the part of Hebrews 10:24-25 that you left off: “and all the more so as you see the day drawing near.” That day came – the day of Christ, and we will live in it forever. That day was near future in New Testament times (Romans 13:11-12; Philippians 1:6, 10) but it’s distant past now (Jesus Christ Has Already Come Again). What New Testament believers were encouraging themselves to wait for is in our midst today: the Kingdom of God (Luke 17:20-21; The Kingdom of God Is Here and Now, Seeking the Kingdom of God Instead of Church). Jesus told us to seek it first (Matthew 6:33) so I am simply obeying Him. If I knew of a church that preached Jesus and the kingdom of God I might go there, but all the ones I know seek the advancement of church and not the advancement of the kingdom. No one can serve two masters (Matthew 6:24).

      • Lucy says:

        I’m glad I found this site. I recently decided to become a Christian and I felt uneasy about consorting with other Christians. Like you, I don’t really like all that many of them (you don’t say it so directly, but its quite evident in your writing). So, its comforting to know that I can grow spiritually without the church. I’ll let your blog and one or two others be my church. Thanks so much… I’m very encouraged tonight as I begin this new phase of life!

        • Mike Gantt says:

          Lucy,

          I am so glad you have seen the light of Jesus Christ.

          Your faith in Him will be tested, so do not be surprised when that happens. In those times, keep clinging to Him – and your faith will become strong in spite of the testing.

          You can learn about Him from others, but never follow others or become dependent on others. Instead, seek only to love others with the love God has shown toward you.

          Again I say, hold fast to the Lord Jesus Christ. Never let Him go. People will fail you, but He never will.

    • Mike says:

      While you’re thinking about that, consider also that 1) this is the only verse in the New Testament that can be used to call for church attendance. If churchgoing is so important, why aren’t there multiple Bible verses instructing it as there are with all key Bible teachings? And, 2) churchgoers themselves are not obeying this verse – not even you are obeying it. Note that “not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together” does not describe what you and other churchgoers are doing. Rather, you are assembling separately (by denominations). In the New Testament there was only one church per city and the apostles wouldn’t allow divisions. Today we have over 30,000 denominations (i.e. divisions)! For elaboration on these two points, see my post Hebrews 10:25. I am interested in your response.

      • John Byde says:

        Hi Mike,

        As a disillusioned churchgoer, I love your site and agree with all the points you make.

        • Mike Gantt says:

          John,

          I pray that to the degree you’ve been disillusioned with the institutional church – to that degree and more – you will be inspired by the living Christ.

          Let everyone understand that it’s not forsaking the institutional church that helps you; rather, it’s finding your Lord as you do so.

          The true church consists in those who hold to Jesus as their pastor. These believers don’t go to Him once or twice a week. They are conscious of Him every day…and they serve Him in every corner of life.

  6. Malinda Rutledge says:

    Mike, I hope that your lives are filled with much goodness, even through all the trials and tribulations of your/our days.. Yes, I have been through the most difficult times this past 5 years with my parent’s illnesses. I honestly thought I was going to “just run away” and I realized that I had my Lord to lean on and sustain me. My church – the Episcopal Church has been one socialized religious ‘mess” and I could only go for comfort in knowing that I could go there and cry for all the indiscretions done, felt and witnessed. I am very human and know that I am here for a purpose to live my Christian beliefs and to give to those who cannot know what we know as Christians. Please don’t stay away from any church,, they certainly need you, maybe not in the sense that we think, but the Holy Spirit, our Lord knows best..

    • Mike says:

      Malinda, I’m glad to hear you express gratitude for the Lord’s comfort to you through difficult times. That He has shown at least some of it to you through other people is no surprise, for He often comforts us in this way. My only point would be that any human being – whether a Christian or not – can receive this comfort, and any human being – whether part of a church or not – can give it. God wants human beings to love one another, as an expression of our love for Him.

      Additionally, it is comforting to know that He will also comfort us directly with His Holy Spirit because there are times when other people – for whatever reason – simply won’t be there. At these times we must remember that He is a forgiving God (as you wrote earlier today) and therefore we should be forgiving people.

      I should close by saying that I myself was comforted by reading what you wrote about your love for Him and your appreciation of Him. He is worthy that we (that is, human beings) should all talk about Him in this way.

  7. Shirley Anne says:

    Hello Mike. I am Shirley Anne in the UK, a non church-goer (now). I give thanks and praise our God for brothers (and sisters) like you. Thank you for speaking the truth so that others may benefit and come to Yahweh. He will do the calling though but maybe He will do it through the words that The Holy Spirit has given you to write. Who knows?
    Shirley Anne

  8. Brian Troxel says:

    Amen. Keep up the good word. Lord Bless, Brian

  9. Geno Wharton says:

    Good insights to Christianity of the 1st century AD, before the Roman Empire adopted it and then changed it by the 5th century AD. That is why I myself am just a Spiritual Christian and do not associate with any form of physical Christianity (churchianity), thus I don’t go to church. I read a Hebrew Old Testament (Masoretic Text) and a Greek New Testament (Textus Receptus) using Strong’s Lexicon to translate the words literally into English to what the original author said and not translators interpretations. God bless in Jesus name.

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  11. Ricky says:

    Is there a way I may be able to translate your “Everyone is Going to Heaven” book? Many people in the Spanish-speaking world need to hear about the Good News.

    • Mike Gantt says:

      Google has a “translate” function which would allow translation of the book (and anything else on my blogs) into Spanish and many other languages. Anyone in the world with internet browser access can do this at any time.

      If you want to create a print version in Spanish, all you need to do is find the means to translate, print, and publish it. You do not need my permission to do any of this as I make no copyright claims for anything I write about Jesus (see About).

      Freely I have received this good news; freely I give it to you. Spread the word!

    • j. h. kelly says:

      Mind blowiing to read a year-old blog bringing me twisted chuckles. Was Mike itweaking Ricky’s tail to read and think!.? “Everyone is Going to Heaven” can’t help but make you think…Huh? thought Bible Thumpers PREACH hellfire, damnation and brimstone, not HEAVEN for EVERYONE. What does Mike mean by Heaven? A place of peace, or of the dead, certainly not punishment. Yipes! Jesus said trying any different path was like a thief or a robber. No one comes to the Father, God, but by Him who died for our sins. Jesus answered the important question..What must I do to have eternal life? Life comes from God in Christ. Blessings, jimmy

  12. Duchan Caudill says:

    I shall certainly find and take the time to sort through more of your writings, which, from what I have so far read and contemplated on, contain clear, lucid thought. I send you greetings.
    – Duchan

  13. Dan Perez says:

    You are really an answer to my search of where to find a church to join with. I was raised catholic but as I examined the teachings of them through the Bible i saw a lot that sounds non biblical. I’ve tried to search more and the more I read on other denomination’s point of view, the more I was puzzled. You are right then Brother, I’d rather have to go on studying the Bible rather than join any of the churches that arise today. Hope I will be needing your blog and the writings you have in here. I really appreciate seeing you in the website……..God be with us!
    —Dan P. (Philippines)

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  15. j. h. kelly says:

    I was baptized into Christ as a teen in a church building. I didn’t know much Bible I learned since. I knew I was a sinner, God loves me, Christ died for my sins, sorrow for sin lead to repentence, forgiveness comes trusting good news. Words like faith, believe, are also used. I feel comfortable trusting God’s Word, the promise of Grace accompanying Faith in Christ as Lord. Another good word, for me, is surrender. Years later i learned from a good Christian teacher. The essence of Sin is self-assertion. The essence of Righteousness is Thy will be done. In retrospect Christ can’t live fully in me while I continue to be boss. Is that what Christ meant by a new birth coming to Nicodemus? Does God fill the vessel we bring? Maybe Churchhouse walls need to be broken like Jericho. Believers not buildings are Christ’s holy temple. I get it! Many in church houses know this. As a self-acknowledged “hothouse” Christian, I’m grateful for support of other believers. God Bless You, for making this site available for otherwise separated members of His Body. The Church, Body of Christ was built on the Truth, Jesus Christ is the only-begotten, (unique, only one of His kind) Son of the Living God. ,
    Blessings, jimmy

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  19. Jim Roane says:

    Mike, I tried to reply on the Credo blogsite; however, no matter how I worded it, it kept rejecting it with “Sounds like you have already said that before.” Now, had it said, “More of the same,” I could have understood that. In any event, Matt, you said:

    “Cryptocatholic, Why the pursuit of a magisterium? Who told you that you need one? A magisterium just helps you fall into error faster than you could fall into it on your own, as practically all the examples you just gave demonstrate.”

    Matt, I must politely say that sounds like a cop-out, Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, etc. all started out as a magisterium of one. You’re not taking me down that rabbit trail.

    Please answer the question: Are we not to trust some body? Paul even had his theology critiqued (i.e., Jerusalem Council Acts 15). All I am asking is where do I go to get my theology critiqued? And, what about poor mentally retarded Joe down the block, can he be expected to decide for himself? You may be able to devote humpteen zillion hours to the study of a predicate adjective but the average Joe Blow doesn’t have the will or the brains to do likewise.

    Come on, you are willing to teach others, surely you must have had teachers that you trusted. All I am asking is for you to point me to those, ’cause I ain’t got time to spend 1200 hours looking up the use of some Greek word, nor does my unsaved brother. Implying that the Bible is the inerrant word of God as an a priori fact is absolutely ridiculous. Perhaps, we say that about the idea of there being a God (or denying such) as a priori in nature; however, the Scripture is most definitely a posteriori. Be that here or there is not in my opinion crucial to the argument at hand–that is, by the very fact that one of the so-called ministry gifts is teaching by logical consequence I simply do not see the need for a teaher or teachers if we are to reject even the very thought of a magisterium that, as you imply, would only confuse matters.

    Or have I miss read you?

  20. Mike Gantt says:

    Jim,

    You seem frustrated that I haven’t answered your questions, so I went through your comment and pulled out all the sentences that ended with a question mark.  Here goes:

    Are we not to trust some body?

    Yes, but who we trust in the beginning is not necessarily who we trust in the end.  The citizens of Sychar first believed because of the woman at the well (John 4:39), but that led them to Jesus and they ended up trusting Him directly (John 4:41-42).

    All I am asking is where do I go to get my theology critiqued?

    When I was young in the faith, I got my theology critiqued by those who led me to the faith.  Now that I write a blog, I get my theology critiqued all the time – and by whosoever will.

    Even if you don’t have a blog, you can comment on someone else’s and have your theology critiqued that way.

    The best way of all to get one’s theology critiqued is to live it.  God Himself will critique it for you.

    And, what about poor mentally retarded Joe down the block, can he be expected to decide for himself?

    The Parable of the Talents makes clear that God gives us differing measures of grace.  We are not judged according to the grace we don’t have, but rather the grace that we do have.  “To whom much is given, much is expected.”

    Or have I miss read you?

    I hope these answers have advanced the discussion.  If these answers raised yet more questions in your mind, ask away.  If I have simply misunderstood them, please re-phrase.

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  22. Roberto Vilar says:

    You are a fine example of the action of the Holy Spirit.
    You prove as a lot of silence people do, what human beings could be.

  23. Duke says:

    Peace be with you Mike.

    It is written:
    Luke 12:36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will
    return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto
    him immediately.

    The time has come, time to bring in the harvest.

    Open this door: http://www.marques.co.za/duke/revelation.html

    The faithful witness

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  26. Emily says:

    Dear fellow blogger!

    I invite you to read my blog post about the Kingdom of God:

    “The Bible says that we should put it first in our lives (Matt. 6:33) and that we should be preaching it to others (Luke 9:2). We pray for God’s kingdom to come on a regular basis, but if someone were to ask us: “Please, explain to me exactly what the Kingdom of God is”, would we know what to say?”

    Read more: https://faithandencouragement.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/what-is-the-kingdom-of-god/

  27. Kristan says:

    Mezcla los juegos para videoconsolas con juegos activos afuera, trata con los juegos tradicionales de mesa que fomenten la interacción frente a frente.

  28. Barb says:

    Hi Mike
    I happened across your blog today after hearing our Uniting Church minister discuss the idea of Jesus Christ’s return as an event that has happened already.

    I believe I was led to read your words here by the Holy Spirit.

    I have been a church-goer all my life and I am an active member of our local church. I live in a small community some 45 kms from Perth West Australia and our church is a bit of a hybrid (Anglican/Uniting Church). The church is used by three Christian denominations and we have an open communion for all believers.

    I feel that the church’s presence in our community is vital but I also agree with many of your comments regarding the established church and it’s foibles.

    Thank you for your insight and leadership and thanks be to God who has given you the task of spreading the Gospel message through the medium of the internet.

    However, I do feel strongly that the worship of God with other Christians is a vital part of my day to day living. Through the agencies of the church I am able to reach out and help, both physically and spritually, other people with whom I would not otherwise have contact. I also feel that the act of worshipping together is one that sustains and supports me because I feel in that act of worship the presence of my Lord and saviour. That’s not to say I don’t feel His presence back home in my kitchen or during my personal prayers during the week.

    I don’t think you need to warn people away from the established church, but I think the comments in your writings help to focus our thoughts, actions and living to the constant and loving presence of our Lord.

    Yes, some churches in their insistence on rites and rituals may take the focus away from the personal relationship with God, but please remember that many Christians feel sustained in their beliefs and their faith by joining together in worship.

    God bless you in your work.

    Barb

    • Timothy says:

      Dear Barb, I believe that no matter if the current overall state of “the Church” (that of Institutionalized, or Organized Religion) is “lukewarm” or not: regardless of whether she is “wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked” (spiritually speaking); THERE IS STILL HOPE! Yes, not all are to be judged as living ‘identically’ as Christians. Some ARE genuine (not in name alone), true disciples of Christ! Thus, fellowship with sincere Christians, ‘however and wherever’ we can meet is important. It isn’t so much the building, or ‘the religious denomination’ we designate ourselves as, that will determine our individual life and walk with our Lord and Savior. It is our heart, and our commitment to fully love, live, and serve Him and others. Even when we feel that we cannot lift our eyes unto Jesus, or utter one word; we can open the door of our heart all the same, and sincerely repent. Thanks be to God! Do we even dare to pray the following prayer? Oh, Jesus, please help your flock over which you as the Good Shepherd watch intently. How we are lost without you, and shiver in the coldness that this world offers. We truly repent and come to you now Lord- just as we are. Help us in our spiritual poverty to come now in our brokenness and nothingness to receive from you. Clothe us in your purity and holiness. We can not hide our true condition before you. Open our eyes that we may see the Truth, the Light of Your Gospel. Remove the darkness and Sin from our lives. Call us now, with Your voice and Spirit, to the path of the narrow way that stands before us. Take us into Your care and guidance. Yes, we seek Your forgiveness, and open our hearts unto You. Forgive us, for where we have set anyone else before us as Master or Teacher. You alone are all we truly need! In Your holy name, Lord Jesus we pray. Thank You. Amen.

  29. Mike Gantt says:

    Barb,

    There are certainly many saints today who serve the Lord faithfully in a local church environment…because they have not been taught about the kingdom of God. Their leaders have shut them out of the kingdom (Matthew 23:13; Luke 11:52; Galatians 4:17). And many of these leaders have themselves shut out by their leaders (e.g. their seminary professors).

    It is time for a generation to arise who will fully serve the Lord according to what the Scriptures teach and not give precedence to the traditions of men.

    The institutionalization of the church – whether it takes the form of the mighty Roman Catholic Church with its popes and bishops, or the form of a modest house church with pastor or elders – is the dividing of the Lord’s body and the replacement of its divine head with a human head. This is not good.

    There is certainly good that comes when believers unite together to serve others, but this can be achieved through a parachurch organizational format. And there is certainly good that comes from the people of God speaking truth to each other and encouraging each other (whether that takes place in a large, organized fashion or in small and informal personal exchanges), but this does not require the institutionalization of the church. If the Lord has come (and He has!), then the church is His. All Christian organizations should serve the church – not try to take its place.

    Worship is to take place during all our waking hours (Romans 12:1ff). The world loves it when we call worship that which takes place in a building out of their sight. They want more darkness, but the Lord did not send us to put our light under a bushel.

    Let this be a generation that stops dividing the Lord’s body and instead worships Him in unity and in knowledge of the truth – every day, all day, everywhere.

    “Turn your eyes upon Jesus; look full in His wonderful face, and the things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of His glory and grace.”

    “I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back, no turning back…Though none go with me, still I will follow, no turning back, no turning back.”

    • Timothy says:

      Mike, I think I can see how you, like my dear Brother Chip Brodgen (Chip Brodgen.com); had a experience with Organized Religion that has ‘opened your eyes’, so to speak. You are both getting the same (howbeit, different in material context) message out to others. I wonder, do you know of him? Perhaps you both have sharp differences in doctrinal beliefs, but the central message is the same. I, like Barb, can choose where and how to fellowship. But my main point remains the same: “It isn’t so much the building, or the ‘religious denomination’ we designate ourselves as, that will determine our individual life and walk with our Lord and Savior. It is our heart, and our commitment to fully love, live, and serve Him and others.” Yes, I believe that ‘the system of Organized Religion’ is not the best way to fully love, live, and serve Him and others. Individually, we would do much better relying on HIM ALONE. But that much being said, some fellowship, however we ‘choose’ to get it, is essential and helpful for us. Again, we can debate whether “going to Church” is the BEST choice, but it is still OUR FREE CHOICE, all the same. I choose not to attend “a Church”, mainly because, as a disciple of Jesus Christ, I AM THAT CHURCH, MADE UP OF “LIVING STONES”. I don’t need a religion AS MUCH AS JESUS CHRIST! Still, I am a Christian. And I, like Barb, can “choose” just how I care to fellowship with others. God bless the ones who are still finding their way OUT OF THE SYSTEM that Man has created! And bless those who cannot yet see the error of the ‘Man-made’ system! May Jesus Christ be ‘truly’ our Lord and Savior whether ‘in’ or ‘out’ of such! Timothy

  30. Mike Gantt says:

    Timothy,

    Seems like it was a couple of years ago that I stumbled across Chip’s site. I remember clicking around a bit, and I may have even left a comment or two, but, while I saw some common points of interest, didn’t really feel like there was a reason to continue visiting his site. Even now I don’t feel that I grasp what he is and isn’t about.

    As for “having an experience with organized religion that opened my eyes,” this really doesn’t describe my view. I was indeed committed to organized religion, but it was the Bible – not negative experiences – that provoked me to drop that commitment. I did indeed have some very negative experiences – as well as some very positive ones – with organized religion, but I would never have turned away from it based on negative experiences. As Job would say, we should take the bad with the good (Job 2:10). What changed my thinking was a commitment I eventually made to the Lord to build the local church using nothing but the Bible as a guide. (If you’re not aware, there are many, many books about how to do organized church – whether denominational or a house church; I had read many of them.) I found out that you cannot build a local church using the Bible as your only guide. If you use the Bible exclusively, you will be brought to the kingdom – which was what the New Testament church was looking forward to receiving.

    If they who had “the partial” were looking forward to “the perfect” (1 Corinthians 13:10), why should we seek “the partial” when we know “the perfect” has come?

  31. Mike Gantt says:

    “Joy to the world, the Lord is come, let earth receive her King!”

    • Timothy says:

      Lord, Bring Your joy to this world when Life all around us goes wrong. Help us feel Your Spirit is Here, and in our hearts put Your song. As clear as a mountain stream… as pure as the Angels sing; so may the words from our mouths be. That we may praise Your majesty. Let all the Earth proclaim that Jesus is THE LORD! Come All, to the Tree of Life, that shines from the glory above. Feed you, from that paradise, with fruit of His bountiful Love. With gold as the words He said. And Red as the blood He shed. His tree has freed us from our sin. The leaves- through death bring Life Again. Let all the Earth proclaim the GLORY of His Name! Remove from us all remnant of Sin, till changed to Your garment of Light. Dress us in Your Spirit of Truth, Your image, Your likeness so bright. Robed in Your righteousness; so may this world You bless. And shine within that all may see. Your merciful grace that sets all free. Let ALL THE EARTH PROCLAIM the GLORY of Your Name! Amen. Hope you enjoy this “my original” song. Blessings to All.

  32. Timothy says:

    Mike, After directing some of my friends to your blog for Jesus Christ; some of their reactions were quite predictable. (No surprise). The majority felt that “this is not the Gospel”, but “more like sensationalist ‘shock and awe’ rhetoric meant to sway ‘true believers’ to your interpretive perspective on the Scriptures (the Bible), and towards accepting your own “revelations” on how it is to be read.” I told them, of course, that: “If they did not agree with it; they did not have to read any of it”. They in turn, questioned: “What led you to WANT to read such in the first place?” Most either ‘outright rejected’ all of it as “a kind of tabloid journalism”, or “inventive speculation that you support with a multitude of scriptural citations.” They then went on a tirade about how Cults do the same thing. I, for one, don’t know how to answer for their assessments. Everyone, (Fundamentalists, or those ‘traditional and conservative’ Christians alike), are free to dismiss any, or all of what you say as “false”. And at worst “nothing but trash”. But one cannot ignore the scriptures, if at all, they take any of them to heart! Still I am bothered by their calling this “another Gospel” that the Apostle Paul totally condemns!” Are you presenting this as THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, or ‘additional’ and ‘supplemental’ material to be considered? Your kind response to this question will ‘set it straight’ for all your readers, and me as well. PS: We have a choice to either accept or reject; so none is forced to believe any of this. I, for one, PRAY and ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD to testify to my heart about what I read. Timothy

  33. Mike Gantt says:

    Timothy,

    I am presenting the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    I am not presenting an additional gospel.
    I am not presenting another gospel.
    I am not presenting a false gospel.

    What is the gospel in a nutshell? Jesus is Lord, and the Bible is the word of God. Upon these two truths, everything else hangs.

    The reason I give scriptural citations and explanations is that I am just a human being like anyone else. I have no special authority. Therefore, I demonstrate why I believe and proclaim what I do by referencing the Scriptures from which I learned it. I am presenting what the Scriptures say, because I have read and studied them.

    If the Bible is not the word of God, then there is no reason we should heed it. But if it is the word of God, it is more authoritative than every church, every pastor, every pope, every government, and every human being.

    I recognize that it can be difficult for people to turn away from traditional teachings, but if the Bible was not meant to correct our understanding and teach us more than we already know about the grace of God, then why do we bother reading it at all?

    I read the Bible day after day because there is always more for me to learn.

    If your friends won’t listen to me, I don’t hold it against them. They don’t know me, and they have no way of looking to my life to see if I am a man of character. But if they won’t listen to the word of God, if they won’t examine the Scriptures daily as did those in Berea when confronted with a biblical teaching they had never heard before (compare them with the Thessalonians in Acts 17:1-11), then I think your friends dishonor the Lord they claim to honor – for the Bible is His word, not mine.

    If I am wrong, let it be shown by the Scripture.

    • Timothy says:

      Mike, God bless you and thank you for your kind response! No, I don’t wish to “show you” where you are right or wrong. I agree, the Bible is not only His word, but HE IS THAT OF WHICH IT SPEAKS! Therefore, (like you I am sure), I have only the ‘highest respect’ for Him and do not ever want to force His Truth to have to come to my defense in a ‘duel of wits’, so to speak. Such a position, for me at least, would only reveal my own arrogance, self-will, pride, self-justification, and self-righteousness. I am not “above” Him or His word. I trust that like me; this is your position too! Where ANYONE has to argue or debate HIS WORD, then they are trying to defend Jesus Christ “in their own strength”. I allow Him to defend Himself. (or rather, I allow the Truth to stand on it’s own merit). I have no merit to attach to myself. I give Him Alone the pre-eminence. Where Christians may “disagree” on doctrine or positions; I stand on Christ, the Solid Rock, as my Firm Foundation. All other ground is “sinking sand”! His forgiveness is for ALL PEOPLE, and His grace (or mercy) extends to EVERYONE. He “wills” that all may be saved for which He “so loved the world”. Oh, that we might only see this! Timothy

  34. Mike Gantt says:

    You see Him well. Never waver. Keep walking toward Him.

    “…They for their part may turn to you, but as for you, you must not turn to them” (Jeremiah 15:19).

    See also Jeremiah 17:5-8.

    Those who keep their hearts clean in the sight of an ever-watchful God gain for themselves an ever-present help in time of trouble.

    Jesus is Lord, and the Bible is the word of God.

    • Timothy says:

      Mike, I don’t try to convince others that they should turn to my way of seeing things. Instead, I try, by how I live my life, to direct them to the Lord Jesus Christ. Even then, I’m sure, that the Image and Likeness that they see; is more of me, and (sad to say, but true) even less of Him. (Lord, forgive me for that!) When I stated above that “HE IS THAT OF WHICH IT SPEAKS!”; I have found that much, if not all of the whole Bible was written to uncover or reveal the very thoughts (howbeit prophetically) and feelings of this man called Jesus Christ. Specifically, this was revealed most profoundly to me in Psalm 40 verse 7 of the Psalms of David. Here it says: “Then said I, (Christ speaking prophetically to us) Lo, (Look) I come: in the volume of the book (the Bible) it is written of me.” (KJV with my own insight added). Once I had truly grasped the significance of these words; then did the Bible really open up to me. That, and how “correspondences” are used throughout the Bible to clothe natural things with deeper spiritual meaning and import. That was June 3, 2002. Several years, and yes, Life Lessons later have brought me to this place in my ongoing journey for the Truth- of wondering: What and how did Jesus really think? So taking this, as my starting point; I later thought: What if by prayer and meditation into these prophetic words I (or anyone) could enter into the very mind, heart, and spirit of Christ? Was this even possible? If it was; just how was I to do this? I then, after much prayer, decided to take these words among the many I have found (in Job, the Psalms, and elsewhere) and write for myself prayers and meditations for daily living as a result. It should go without saying that to “die” or “empty one’s self” of all egocentric, selfishly directed thoughts should be the first step towards reaching the ultimate goal one hopes to achieve. Still, one has to start wherever one happens to be in life and work from there. All should slowly, reverently, and meditatively think while reading the Bible. May Jesus Christ alone by His Holy Spirit conform your mind, heart, and spirit to His own. Amen

  35. Mike Gantt says:

    Glad to hear it.

    John 5:39

    Luke 24:25-27, 31-32, 44

  36. Barb says:

    Mike & Timothy
    Thank you for your carefully thought out replies.

    It is clear that you are passionate about the Gospel message and passionate about the task of reaching out to others.

    But no two of us are alike; what vehicle we use to bring others to Christ is a God-given right and our Lord uses many and varied ways of inspiring us to get our lights out from under that bushel.

    We have some people in our community who are devout followers of our Lord and who also choose to conduct a home fellowship group rather than coming to a church building. Great. That’s their choice and they are equally as passionate as you two are to be in communion with God.

    I am interested to know which church traditions are those that you find difficult to endorse. (I’m not defending them, by the way, but I am really interested in what traditions are not appropriate to the worship of God in your opinions.)

    As far as I can see, the traditions that our church follows are these (and I know quite well that the church has nothing to do with the building in just the same way as the home fellowship worship has nothing to do with the decor in the front room of the home) :

    1. Praising God through singing
    2. Breaking bread and drinking wine as Jesus said “Do this in rememberance of me.”
    3. Prayers for the world, the church, the earth and its environment, the sick, lonely and isolated and matters that are of concern currently.
    4. The exchange of greetings and the blessing of others
    5. The giving of money to support the work in the community.
    6. Our ministers of the church preside over the communion.

    That is about it … the tradition of Communion is different in so many congregations I have worshipped with. Having taught in a Catholic College and also in an Anglican College I have participated in the communion at the Anglican services however I do not receive the communion at the Catholic masses.

    This (Catholic communion tradition) is something that I find, at times, so wrong as I believe that Jesus’ instruction was not limited to a way of worship, but to be followed by all believers. It was an instruction to his disciples at the Last Supper and is, in my belief, the central focus of worship.

    Not sure if you agree but I’d be interested in your views.

    God’s richest blessings on you both.

    Barb

    • Timothy says:

      Barb, I feel that when Jesus instituted the Last Supper (called ‘Communion or Eucharist’ as well); He wasn’t necessarily implying that ‘ALL BELIEVERS’ do this as a ritual of “remembrance of Him”. It was meant to draw the Apostles hearts and minds to just what Jesus as the Messiah had meant to them. To connect their souls and spirits to Him; so as to remain one in unity of purpose for the days, months, and years ahead. For this reason alone, I don’t feel that “remembering Him”, in and of itself, if only for the message and the gospel He preached and lived, is wrong. What becomes wrong is when we look exclusively to ‘the symbol’ rather than THE LIVING REALITY to bring us Life, Strength, and Hope for our Christian Walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians at 2 Corinthians 5:16: “Wherefore henceforth (from this time) know we no man after (according to) the flesh (our Sinful Nature): yea though we have known Christ after (according to) the flesh (our Sinful Nature), yet now henceforth (from this time) know we him no more. (after this manner).” (KJV with my own emphasis added). If we, as Christians, wish to commemorate His death, that is fine in itself. But, we as Christians, should look to the Living Lord, rather than the His death, since He is no longer dead. As far as what specifically I disagree with; I could go on, but I will keep much of that to myself. (Unless you really care to know). I have my own RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ, rather than A RELIGION that requires that I just go through the motions of rituals and ceremonies. I hope that this is where you are at in your own Christian Walk with the Lord. Blessings to you dear Sister . Timothy

  37. Mike Gantt says:

    Barb,

    There are many facets to your question, but, for my part, let me address what may be a central issue.

    As for the Lord’s Supper (Communion, Eucharist), Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 11:26, ” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.” This fits with what Jesus said in the night He gave the Passover meal new meaning when He said, “…I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” (Luke 22:15-16). Having made reference to the Second Coming of Christ at multiple points in his letter, Paul is making clear here that this ritual is, like Passover, a temporary practice foreshadowing a greater reality to come. Specifically, that great and awesome reality is constant communion with Christ in the human heart (Revelation 3:20).

    For Christians to continue to practice the Lord’s Supper as if Jesus has not come again is like Jews practicing Passover as if Messiah has not yet come the first time. “When the perfect comes, the partial is done away” (1 Corinthians 13:10).

    If you struggle to believe that the Lord’s Second Coming has indeed occurred, please consider reading Whatever Became of Jesus Christ? The Biblical Case for the Second Coming as Accomplished Fact. Your faith will be strengthened.

    In any case, let us not confine Christ’s presence to certain times and places, but rather acknowledge Him at all times and in all places. And let us enjoy constant communion with Him in our hearts (Romans 14:17). This is the inheritance He died and rose to give us.

    • Timothy says:

      Thank you Mike, for saying just what I might have said. I have re-read Barb’s posted comments so as to accurately KNOW just where she is coming from. She may, in turn question where I (or you) are coming from. But, since our backgrounds are entirely different, there are reasons why I left my one time Denominational Church, that are entirely ‘personal’ and ‘distinctively different’, from why you may of thought to leave it. I don’t fault those dear Brothers and Sisters who have chosen their “Families Only” stance above honoring single Adults such as I. (therefore excluding any and most ministry opportunity for individuals like me). I forgive them. I don’t fault those who blindly embrace a cold, exclusive, stance towards others “who, like me, just don’t fit in” to their ‘perceived mindset’ of the world around them. (Again, I forgive them). Yes, MANY Brothers and Sisters are, either ‘knowingly’ or ‘unknowingly’ treated as “the others” for which they want ‘little’ if ‘any’ real connection with! (Here, I’m not just talking about a ‘social’ gathering.) When people “expect” you to know, and “just fit into” the place THEY have assigned for you “routinely”; then it is time to examine the ‘real’ reason why you are coming to worship in the first place! I do fellowship with other Christians. But whether, according to the ‘standard’ they set or not, is now entirely up to me, not them. I know, it may still be vague to you and ‘them’, just how ‘exactly’ they may be ‘excluding’ me, but I leave the Holy Spirit to minister that much to them now. Anyhow,…..we are fellowshipping now aren’t we??? And, that much, without any ‘preconceived prejudices’. God bless you both abundantly in His unconditional love. Timothy.

  38. Timothy says:

    Mike, I have read much (certainly not all), that has been published on this blog. It is for this reason that I write to you. Obviously, you are not against others expressing themselves through posted comments here. And some have been questionable (that goes without saying), to say the least! My question I wish to ask is : You have stated in your introduction to this page, “I freely give you through this blog what was freely given to me: the knowing of the Truth”. I understand, this is your blog dedicated to the Lord Jesus Christ. But, is it not ALSO, Our Voice, ‘so to speak’ so as to tell others of the Testimony we wish to share? If I am wrong in assuming this, then please make it be known that, ONLY YOUR IDEAS are to be shared here, and not ours! I trust that this is not the case, nor has it ever been. So, May I express myself here without being censored or unnecessarily restricted from self-expression? I know cursing, swearing, cussing, and strong offensive language will not be tolerated. But, May I post things I feel may be helpful to others? (just asking). Thank you for your kind response. I respect your honest reply. God bless you. Timothy PS: My starting my own blog was met with confusion from me, and resistance from WordPress.com. I don’t know what I am doing wrong.

  39. Mike Gantt says:

    Timothy, as you have noted, I do very little censoring of comments on my blogs. As noted in my “Comments Policy” above, I basically just edit out excessively profane language and spam.

    It sounds like you want your own blog, and WordPress.com is an excellent resource to use for that purpose and not hard to master if you give it some time.

    That said, people have used my blog for the purpose you describe and I have never deleted any of their comments.

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  41. Timothy says:

    sdraietta, You may either subscribe to each new post (as what I have done), or go the route you have currently chosen by typing into the RSS Subscription. Feel free to express yourself here. Only let us give the Lord Jesus Christ the preeminence. Thank you, for your interest. And may God bless and forgive EVERYONE, no matter who they are, or what they have or will do! (Yes, I do mean EVERYONE). Thank you Mike, for your daily ‘through the Bible’ posts. I have learnt much from the daily reading of God’s Word in terms of Practical Guidance for everyday living from such. So may we all!

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  43. Catholic avenger says:

    You can’t even prove that Jesus wanted us to have a bible from the bible !!! It’s tradition absolute heresy.

    • On the money with that one

    • Timothy says:

      Catholic avenger, No… I can’t PROVE that Jesus wanted us to have a Bible (hilariously called a “Bibble” by a former Jewish friend of mine!) from the Bible! But what I can PROVE (although, Mike’s Blog isn’t the place to do such) is that the Bible is ALL ABOUT JESUS and JESUS IS LORD! That much, so apparently, Mike is able to PROVE to you (if you should care to pay heed) as well! Jesus doesn’t “have to” explain Himself by the Bible, BUT HE HAS AND DOES because HE actually IS ALL that the Bible “is” speaking of! And NO, NO, NO the Bible “as the Truth” is NOT heresy! It is MAN’S INTERPRETATION OF “THE TRUTH” of the Bible that is oftentimes heresy. Don’t blame Jesus Himself for those with Free Will who CHOOSE to “MISINERPRET AND PROFANE” His Truth about Himself! I could go off on you for blaming Jesus for that, but you seem to be an “elapsed Catholic” rather than a practicing one; for thinking that Jesus is to be “blamed” for our own “misinterpretations” of His Truth of who He IS. If I am wrong, then I apologize and stand corrected. Don’t take the stance of this World Mindset! Come to KNOW the REAL JESUS by reading and discovering Him for yourself. God Bless You Most Abundantly; for you ARE LOVED. Timothy

  44. Mike Gantt says:

    How can a statement be “on the money” if it is not coherent?

  45. John Noble says:

    Mike, the church and going to church has confused a lot of Christians. We are the church, when we assemble we are also the church for the church is the body of Christ. The church as a body is a family, a school and a business of our Father. A family of all who have believe and accepted Jesus as Lord and personal savior with him as our father. A school taken the child born again, growing and educating him unto his responsibilities as a son of the father and heir to the throne on earth. A business taking in the child born again and looking after him feeding him and equipping him to be able to uphold all that the father has left for him on this earth. The church raptures unto the kingdom for it is a temporal stage set by for the child to have the required protection from the Holy Spirit and the ministered anointed by Him. Thus growth entails we are not all at the same age and therefore you will find your spiritual age mates to relate to. The assemble of the brethren is cherish by the father especially if it has to do with worship -giving him Glory in our sonship of him; honour -if we are set to obey him; power – if we submit to him to be used; and praise – if we ascribe all our success to him. Thus the set up is spiritual first to manifest physically unto our gathering in the flesh. I pray that you recognize your age mates and have fellowship.

  46. Mike Gantt says:

    John,

    You do not seem to appreciate the consequences of the Lord’s having come again. Does this mean that you view the coming of the kingdom of God as something still future? If so, please click on “Overview” in the menu bar above and read “Jesus Christ Has Already Come Again,” “All Bible Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled in Christ,” and “The Kingdom of God Is Here and Now.”

    I say this because your vision for God’s pleasure seems rooted in a church-age outlook. If you will instead adopt a kingdom-age point of view, you will see that God’s desire for earth is not to see some humans gather for periodic “worship services” but rather for individual families to walk in righteousness, peace, and joy day after day. Please meditate verses such as these: Romans 14:17, Micah 6:8, Acts 3:25, and Romans 12:1-2.

    Our fellowship with each other comes and goes, but fellowship with Christ – the Creator, Lord, and Savior of all creation – has been offered to us as constant:

    – “I will NEVER leave thee, nor forsake thee.” – Hebrews 13:5 KJV [emphasis added]
    – “God is our refuge and strength, an EVER-PRESENT help in trouble.” Psalm 46:1 NIV [emphasis added]
    – “I am with you ALWAYS” – Matthew 28:20 [emphasis added]

    This is the kingdom of God and eternal life: fellowship with God. The strength of this relationship will allow us to always love all our fellow human beings regardless of their spiritual age or ours.

  47. Anonymous says:

    John, A friend of mine told me that: “Mike Gantt should STOP behaving as though he speaks for God! He CAN’T! Nor DOES he! He speaks his own opinion, that he then supports by his faulty understanding of the scriptures and God’s Will. He should read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and then allow, as he is reading, the Holy Spirit to correct his errors of judgment concerning the Scriptures.” (Sorry, but this friend has NO COMPUTER, is not computer-savvy, nor does he have an “Open mind”). I will let others be the judge of whether Mike should STOP SPEAKING AS THOUGH HE “SPEAKS FOR GOD”. He definitely is egotistical and arrogant in his own opinions.

  48. Mike Gantt says:

    I’m just reporting what I’ve learned from reading the Bible and trying to do what it says.

  49. John Noble says:

    Mike first I do for I am in communion with him daily as he leads me unto His righteousness and the kingdom in me and with me. However he has assured me that he will come in the same way he ascended to established the kingdom for me. The church age deficits the time the church will be operating on earth and will be until he comes bodily. Whiles the kingdom age runs according to the individual that has decided to seek the kingdom and is for ever. The church is temporal set up by Jesus Christ whiles he was on earth whiles the kingdom exist from creation. I hope this will be of help. Regards John Noble.

  50. John Noble says:

    Anonymous,
    I appreciate your concern for him. Nobody is perfect in the knowledge of the creator God and his son. We all know him in part, that which the Spirit has revealed to the individual. Your guarantee is that when you seek him you will find him and he will reveal Himself to you on areas that is very beneficial to you. If you seek miracles you will know him in that way whiles if you seek his kingdom He will reveal his kingdom to you. Just seek the kingdom by making his Word to you as a king’s message to you to abide in. Best regards.

    • Anonymous says:

      John, You are obviously new to viewing Mike’s Blog. Read on and then watch some of his videos! I am sure that I am not the first person, nor the last who has come to the consideration that he is egotistical and arrogant. Yes, he is not perfect in his knowledge of the Creator and His Son. That is true. Not even close. Yet, to many, the ideas that he promotes are heretical at best, and blasphemy at worse! What some people like Mike Gantt won’t do to elevate their own knowledge above the Truth!

  51. Mike Gantt says:

    What I say to you I say to all: If you do not find my views in the Bible then don’t believe me.

    The only reason I hold the views that I do is that I found them in the Bible. If it were not for the Holy Spirit I would not know these views.

    I have no special calling or gifting. I am just a regular human being who has read the Bible and been blessed by what I have learned.

    Everything I believe can be traced back to these two truths: Jesus is Lord and the Bible is the word of God.

    • Anonymous says:

      Mike, You and people like you can use the Bible to justify your position on anything! Legalization of Marijuana? Slavery with exceptions? Going soft on crime and its punishment? The Bible wasn’t created to support YOUR POSITION! (however right you claim it is). I do believe what that Bible says. But people have used it for centuries to support ideas that are wrong. I will frankly, along with others DISAGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU THINK THE BIBLE IS SAYING TO US. I will allow God’s Holy Spirit to testify to whether it IS truly right or not! Thank you John Noble for your insight into how Mike contradicts himself. But that is only the least of his errors!

      • Mike Gantt says:

        Peter wrote: “But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God” (2 Peter 1:20-21).

        It sounds like you and I agree that the Bible and the Holy Spirit are both of God and therefore both true. If you think I’ve misrepresented either, you owe it to me to be specific. Then I can either defend my position or accept yours.

        • Anonymous says:

          Mike, This is exactly where you are wrong! Does everything for you have to be a debate over whose position concerning their understanding of the Bible is MOST CORRECT? I DO NOT OWE IT TO YOU TO USE THE BIBLE AS A METHOD TO DEFEND MYSELF OR MY POSITIONS ON ANYTHING! Why is it that it comes down to a “argument” on whose position or understanding of the Bible is MOST correct? I know many who feel you have misrepresented the Bible in your understanding of it. Yet to make it a point of contention is really to no avail. Much will not get solved that way. People will believe what they want. That is why we have so many denominations and cults that abound; because it is always coming down to a “argument” or “debate” over whose position is correct! People like John Noble can use their own discernment and wisdom from God to decide for themselves. May God and His Holy Spirit help him as well as us all.

          • Mike Gantt says:

            The Lord doesn’t want us to seek contention, but He does want us to seek truth.

            I can’t make you be specific about what you believe is erroneous in my teaching, but I can refuse to take your criticism seriously until you do.

            My interest is in the truth of the Bible. Until someone can show me where I am wrong, I am conscience-bound to stick with what I have learned from my reading.

  52. John Noble says:

    Mike you seem to contradict yourself. You want people to believe you when you have said in the beginning that you want all to believe in Jesus and not you. Don’t hold views about him just live in him to experience the kingdom within.

    You also said you were once a Pastor in that case you had an anointing for those you were pastoring but you are now saying you are just a disciple. The lord relationship with you on these are different. In the latter you have equipment for your growth and development whiles in the former you get the equipment for the commission of ,the church for which you have been anointed.

    Jesus is more that our lord. He is God, our savior, our master, our lord, our brother, our father, our king and our life. He desires us to relate to him in all these forms.

    The bible is the Word of God written down. But Jesus is the Word personality and we commune with him to receive the Word substance of the Spirit, which transforms us unto his likeness. I am not saying don’t read the bible but Christ said the scripture talks about him. The scripture was there when he came but they refuse and did not recognize him. The scripture is fulfilled in Jesus Christ on his coming and in him is the kingdom
    in all creations.

  53. Mike Gantt says:

    John, you’ve raised a number of points so I’ve answered you here (where I had more “elbow room”).

  54. Anonymous says:

    And I, (as well as the readers of your Blog) are ALSO “conscience- bound” to hold to our own understanding of Truth; in rejection of what we have, or will read, from you and your own opinions from your Blog!

  55. Mike Gantt says:

    Anonymous,

    Aside from the fact that you don’t speak for all the readers of my blog, I agree with you.

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