Does It Bother You That Everyone Is Going to Heaven?

I hope it doesn’t.  How could you be bothered that everyone else will receive the same benefit that you are going to receive?

If it does bother you, you might consider what that says about your character.  It’s not as if you’ve earned the way to heaven.  Jesus Christ paid the price for you.  You wouldn’t have a chance without Him and neither would I.

Just because everyone is going to heaven doesn’t mean that there’s no such thing as sin, or judgment, or consequences for behavior.  On the contrary, all these things are true also.  We receive judgment for our sins in this life and in the next.  God will be fair.  But He is not going to sentence anyone to an eternity without Him.  Would you want Him to? I hope not.

If you’re happy that everyone is going to heaven, be happy and repent of your sins.  If you’re sad that everyone is going to heaven, be sad and repent of your sins – including the sin of wishing such evil on your brothers and sisters.

For those who would like a fuller explanation, see Everyone Is Going to Heaven.

50 Replies to “Does It Bother You That Everyone Is Going to Heaven?”

  1. its not that we aren’t happy that everyone is going to heaven. we want everyone to go to heaven and God wishes everyone would repent and go to heaven. We preach hell because it is real and we dont want anyone going there. you have to accept christ to go to heaven. jesus said fear God who is able to cast both soul and body into eternal hell. can you deny the holy bible and God’s word?

    pharisees knew every word of the bible but didn’t know God and go to hell. There will be Christians that say “Lord Lord I did all these things in your name, in jesus’ name” but God sent them to hell because he never knew them. There will be those that say they know Jesus, but even paul said that more Jesus’ will arise.

    try the spirit. if you disagree with anything in the bible, you don’t have god’s spirit because God is the word.

    we want everyone to go to heaven and no one to go to hell, thats why we have missionaries and soulwinning

    1. Hell is real, but it is not a place you go after you die; rather, it is the place of God’s judgment and wrath while you live on earth. Indeed you should fear God and repent in order to avoid it.

      The Bible is in fact God’s holy word and completely reliable, but you are not reading it correctly. You are merely quoting traditional misunderstandings of it.

      If you would try the spirits, as the Bible says, try your own. You are clearly bothered that everyone is going to heaven, but have you truly sought God to understand why?

      Your use of “we” throughout indicates that you are speaking from a second-hand faith. Don’t trust in people; rather, trust God and love people.

      1. yep, so true in 1 corinthians 15:51 listen, I tell you a mystery, we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed. Plain english “all” not some not only christians, but “all”. Yes is yes, no is no, but yes we need jesus and god is our life by reading the bible, praying and fellowshipping while here on earth.

        1. Robyn… One verse lifted from context almost always leads to erroneous exegesis. In verse 50, Paul clearly defines the “all” to which he refers in verse 51. It says “brethren” or “brothers” … a reference to believers, not just anyone.

  2. John quotes Jesus saying, “…he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18) If some are not going to be lost forever, there’s no reason to “Go into all the world and preach the gospel…” That can get you in a lot of trouble, in a lot of places.

    A lot of people will want to come over to God’s side when they see no other choice. It wouldn’t be “real” though. It would be like someone staying with you, not because they love you, but because they have to. Who is really happy with that? Many people wouldn’t be happy in a “perfect” society because their heart wouldn’t be in it. The coming thousand-year rule of Christ upon this earth will show that to be true.

    1. You misunderstand what Jesus means by “condemned.” He does not mean “lost forever” as you infer, but rather “condemned to judgment for sin.” Judgment occurs in this life on earth, and in the one to come in heaven. The reason to “preach the gospel” is so that people can avoid that judgment and be saved from their sins. Everyone who sins is judged and dies; and everyone who dies is going to heaven (1 Corinthians 15:22).

  3. Mike, I think you should pull together a comprehensive study regarding heaven and hell, and well as whether everyone is indeed going to heaven. Once you have laid it all out, I would like to look through it.

  4. There are far too many verses contrary to what you’re saying. A lot of atheists are saying the same thing as you. They reason that if there is a God who’s not willing for any to perish, then they’ll be as safe as any. Verses such as that are speaking about what God desires, and not of a decree that no one will perish. Most of the people of earth will not give God what he desires.

    In John 5:40 Jesus said,”But you are not willing to come to me that you might have life.” Hebrews 9:27, “…it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” Someone may gain the world and lose their soul, because they trust what you’re saying rather than trusting Jesus to save them.

    1. I think what you mean is that there is far too much tradition contrary to what I am saying. It is the Bible that brought me to my position. And I assure you emphatically that there are no atheists saying what I am saying.

      Jesus Christ is the only way to God. As you rightly say in your recent post Memorials, everything that has forgotten Christ is false.

      However, He is not yet to come; rather, He has come – just as He promised. He is here among us. Eternal life is to begin now, and John 5:40 which you quote is His invitation. If you wait until you die to accept that invitation according to Hebrews 9:27, you will be no better off than the atheists (that is, on the way to heaven but keeping Christ at a distance while on earth).

      Keep loving Jesus above all else and you will come to see what I mean.

  5. I doubt that everyone will go to heaven; but I can’t know that for certain.

    If everyone is going, then great! And you are right, thinking about the possibility does help me re-evaluate my motives in modeling my life after Christ.

    1. I commend you for your open-mindedness even when you find the statement hard to accept.

      Keep modeling your life after Christ’s. The outcome will be that your doubts dissipate and certainty will grow. The confidence you see in Him is the confidence He wants to see in us.

      He alone is worthy to be the model! Let us do just as you suggest and imitate Him with all our hearts!

  6. Mike,
    What did Jesus mean, in your opinion, when he said,”And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than to have two eyes to be cast into hell fire.” ? Matthew 18:9
    Tom

    1. Life in the kingdom of God is so wonderful and life outside it is so awful that we’d be better off physically handicapped yet submitted to God’s rule than we would be physically whole yet subject to His wrath. In other words, even though both are important, a healthy soul is vastly more important than a healthy body. Live for Jesus and avoid judgment (that is, do whatever it takes to avoid sin and the judgment it brings).

      1. Mike,
        I don’t remember seeing any where in Scriptures where God says there is life outside the Kingdom. Romans 6:23 says, “For the wages of sin is death,(not life outside the kingdom) but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”.
        If my “right eye offends me…” and I can’t, won’t or don’t do whatever it takes to avoid the judgment it brings which is to receive Jesus’ death on the cross as atonement for mys sins wouldn’t I then be “…cast into hell fire” like Jesus said?

        1. Tom, Mark 4:11 is an example of the Scriptures speaking of people living outside the kingdom. And you yourself can see people living outside of the kingdom all the time. The kingdom of God is being actively submitted and obedient to Jesus our Lord, or as Jesus said explicitly of eternal life: it’s truly knowing Him (John 17:3), which can only come from ongoing obedience to His will. Sad to say, there are many people today living outside the kingdom of God.

          It sounds like you think the kingdom of God (eternal life) is a reality that doesn’t occur until after this life is over. On the contrary, the kingdom of God is in our midst and God would have us enjoy eternal life with Him now (John 5:24; 11:25-26).

          As for your question about Matthew 18:9, it sounds like you are inserting an option that Jesus did not give us. That is, you are saying that instead of doing what He said we can “receive Jesus’ death on the cross as atonement.” Certainly we should receive Jesus’ death on the cross as atonement, but that does not obviate the need for us to obey His instructions – including this verse. If we have received Him as Lord we should obey Him as Lord (Colossians 2:6). Again, it seems that the problem is that you consider eternal life, the kingdom of God, and the fire of judgment as future (i.e. after death) rather than present realities.

          But perhaps I misread you, so correct me where I am wrong.

  7. No I don’t think eternal life starts when we die physically.

    Physical life can exist while we are outside the Kingdom. We are slaves to sin and the prince of the world until we receive Jesus death and resurrection as atonement for our sins. If we receive the Holy Spirit and revelation through God’s Word we will obey His instructions out of Love not fear.
    I still don’t get what you think Jesus meant by the “…fires of hell.”?

    I am not inserting anything.
    He said no one comes to the Father except through me.
    Why do you think He, Jesus, accepted His Fathers will to be scourged, humiliated and crucified?
    Paul said, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit in 1 Cor. 6:9 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God?” Do not be deceived…” Is there any other way to become the righteousness of God than by accepting Jesus as my Savior?
    If I don’t, Then what?

    1. The actual expression is “Gehenna of fire.” Gehenna was the trash heap outside of Jerusalem and symbolizes the judgment experienced outside the kingdom of God. This includes the curses of which Moses wrote in Deuteronomy 28 – in other words, everything negative that happens in life and which is a consequence of sin. Thus, being in the kingdom is being in the place of blessing and being outside it is being in the place of cursing, wrath, and judgment (the prophets described God’s wrath as fire; e.g. Psalm 89:46; Jeremiah 4:4; Ezekiel 21:31; Nahum 1:6; Zephaniah 1:18).

      The meaning of 1 Corinthians 6:9 is clear: you cannot get into the kingdom of God if you’re sinning. This is why Jesus said what He did in Matthew 18:9 (the verse you originally quoted) – do whatever it takes to stop sinning. Accepting Jesus as Savior does not get you into the kingdom (Matthew 7:21); walking with Jesus gets you into the kingdom (2 Peter 1:2-11). The only way to become the righteousness of God is to believe in, honor, and obey Jesus. In our own power, we cannot stop sinning but if we keep our eyes fixed on Him He gives us the power to overcome.

  8. If the meaning of 1 Cor. 6:9 is clear: you cannot get into the kingdom of God if you’re sinning, where do you get to get into if you are sinning?

    I agree that all the sins of the the whole world past, present and future were paid for through the death and resurrection of Jesus. If I do not accept that atonement, there is no way I can walk with Jesus.

    Everything up to v. 5 in 1Peter 1 is a gift. V 5 says “and beside this, give all diligence…”

    1. “If the meaning…” Judgment (wrath, indignation, fire, burning, Gehenna, curses) – these are realities in the earth, not something that happens after we die (John 3:36).

      “I agree that…” Agreed.

      “Everything up to…” I don’t understand what you are saying in this sentence.

  9. John 3:36 doesn’t say that these realities do not happen after we die. It only says the wrath of God abides in the present tense for those who do not believe.

    Jesus Parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31clearly teaches that when we die if we have not repented we go to hell (Hades) never to cross back over. (Eternal)

    Re: “Everything up to…” Sorry, I meant in 2 Peter not 1 Peter that verses 1,2,3,and 4 speak of gifts that must be received just for the fact that hey are gifts and promises. Verse 5 adds “and beside this, (for this very reason. NKJ) give all diligence…” to the works that you will only know about when you have faith by the grace of God, lest you forget that you were cleansed from your old sins.

    1. “John 3:36…” Agreed.

      “Jesus Parable…” Hades and Hell are two entirely different places. Hades is the Greek word for the Hebrew word Sheol, which was the place below where, according to the Bible, ALL people went at death. Jesus Christ changed this and I explain all this at a link you’ll find at Everyone Is Going to Heaven (read the post and look for the link at the bottom). Hell, as I wrote yesterday, is “Gehenna” in Aramaic and “Ben-Hinnom” in Hebrew and refers to the place for burning trash outside Jersusalem. You do not need my link, however, if you know Greek and Hebrew and can study the Scriptures in these original languages, or if you know how to use a Strong’s concordance to trace the usage of these terms (Sheol occurs 65 times in the Old Testament, and , as I said, you’ll see that it refers to the destination below to which everyone went at death – until the work of Jesus Christ).

      “Everything up to…” Agreed.

  10. hey Mike, just some different thoughts, and i want to see what you think:

    Roman 3:21-25 “But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.”

    You’re right in that none of us are good. The section of scripture before this in Romans 3 proves that ‘none is righteous, no, not one”. But verse 23…I KNOW that there’s no other way to please God than faith because without faith, its impossible to please God. And a person’s faith, going by verse 23, must be in the God-Man Jesus Christ. Now let’s move down to verse 25 which shows how God took care of our universal sin problem. He did this by putting forth his son as the propitiation by the blood of Jesus, which means the averting of God’s wrath toward sin and the restoring of fellowship between God and man. But more importantly, from a human perspective, this MUST be received by FAITH. So are you concluding that everyone believes in Jesus Christ? That everyone has placed their ultimate faith and trust in the crucified and risen Jesus? I don’t think so. And if people don’t receive Jesus, they don’t know Him.

    Back to Romans, this time chapter 2, which talks about a day (singular) of wrath and how those apart from Christ are storing up for themselves wrath. How do you ‘interpret’ that? A day where God’s wrath will be revealed (future) against all ungodliness and unrighteousness? I really don’t think you’re making a lot of God’s wrath by reducing it to some earthly experiences. Everyone experiences pain (loss of loved ones, relational issues, physical problems) but I wouldn’t describe this as ‘hell’, would you? Or is this whole life that we are in now, filled with tsunamis, earthquakes, suicides, murder, theft, adultery and the like, hell? That’s what it sounds like you are saying. That God’s wrath, indignation, and fury are present states here on the earth and that there is no hell for eternity apart from God’s presence. Is this true? Again, you are making too little of God’s wrath and in doing so, diminishing the beauty and worth of all that took place at the cross of Jesus FOR those who BELIEVE in him. Not for everyone.

    It absolutely concerns and bothers me that you don’t believe in a God who is good and just, Mike. If you did believe in a God who was just, then you would stake your hope on not taking revenge against those who have hurt you in this present life because ‘vengeance is mine; I will repay’ says the Lord. God is just! And he will repay everyone what they deserve. True, everyone will rise on the last day, but it doesn’t end there. Some will rise to eternal life and others will rise to destruction. Not purgatory. Not some temporal existence that will end and then God will accept them. It’s eternal. Hell is forever just as much as heaven is forever. Jesus talks about separating the sheep from the goats and about throwing fruitless branches into the fire while giving life to his own branches. Jesus talks about saying to people on the last day, ‘depart from me, you who work iniquity (sin); I never knew you.’ Strong words from Jesus, right? I just think your Christianity is too soft and mushy and worse, unbiblical and untrue. You have replaced traditional misunderstandings with modern misunderstandings in attempts to go against 2,000+ years of approved church doctrine, faith, and practice. Your doctrine has no place for predestination, a discussion of the elect, which Paul also talks about in several places.

    Please, for your sake and the sake of others, stop sharing this soft, false gospel that we are all God’s children and going to heaven. Please be a man and respond to this post (i have much more to send your way). But the truth of the matter is is that God has the final word, and He says he will have mercy on whom he chooses to have mercy; he will save those whom he foreknew and those whom he predestined to be his children. God’s desire is that all would repent, but repentance entails a changed life, a new life, and you’re declaring by your faith that repentance doesn’t really matter. New life in Christ doesn’t really matter because everyone is going to heaven. And thus, sharing the gospel doesn’t really matter because everyone is already going to heaven. Mike, your false gospel is falling apart at the seams. Hell is real and eternal. If hell isn’t real and sin has no eternal consequences, than Christ died for nothing, and that’s a dangerously sad belief to hold to.

    1. You’re right in that none of us are good. The section of scripture before this in Romans 3 proves that ‘none is righteous, no, not one”. But verse 23…I KNOW that there’s no other way to please God than faith because without faith, its impossible to please God.

      Agreed.

      And a person’s faith, going by verse 23, must be in the God-Man Jesus Christ.

      Yes, but remember that a person who looks to his Creator in faith, not knowing Jesus Christ, can be led by the Holy Spirit to Christ (such as happened with Cornelius in Acts 10 and Lydia in Acts 16). Therefore, just because a person is not yet seeking Jesus does not mean they are not yet seeking God. God looks on the heart.

      Now let’s move down to verse 25 which shows how God took care of our universal sin problem. He did this by putting forth his son as the propitiation by the blood of Jesus, which means the averting of God’s wrath toward sin and the restoring of fellowship between God and man. But more importantly, from a human perspective, this MUST be received by FAITH. So are you concluding that everyone believes in Jesus Christ? That everyone has placed their ultimate faith and trust in the crucified and risen Jesus? I don’t think so. And if people don’t receive Jesus, they don’t know Him.

      Agreed, but that doesn’t mean they don’t go to heaven when they die. It means they don’t experience the fullness of His grace on earth.

      Back to Romans, this time chapter 2, which talks about a day (singular) of wrath and how those apart from Christ are storing up for themselves wrath. How do you ‘interpret’ that? A day where God’s wrath will be revealed (future) against all ungodliness and unrighteousness?

      The day of wrath began with the second coming of Jesus Christ. The Scriptures also call it the day of the Lord, the day of judgment, the day of Christ, and so on. It’s an eternal day; the sun never sets on it (Malachi 4:2). See Jesus Christ Has Already Come Again as well as the longer biblical case supporting it, Whatever Became of Jesus Christ?

      I really don’t think you’re making a lot of God’s wrath by reducing it to some earthly experiences. Everyone experiences pain (loss of loved ones, relational issues, physical problems) but I wouldn’t describe this as ‘hell’, would you? Or is this whole life that we are in now, filled with tsunamis, earthquakes, suicides, murder, theft, adultery and the like, hell? That’s what it sounds like you are saying.

      Yes, it is.

      That God’s wrath, indignation, and fury are present states here on the earth and that there is no hell for eternity apart from God’s presence. Is this true?

      Yes.

      Again, you are making too little of God’s wrath and in doing so, diminishing the beauty and worth of all that took place at the cross of Jesus FOR those who BELIEVE in him. Not for everyone.

      On the contrary, I am showing the wrath of God to be the awful consequences that they are, and I am exalting all that took place at the cross by showing that its benefits apply to the whole human race (1 John 2:1-2).

      It absolutely concerns and bothers me that you don’t believe in a God who is good and just, Mike.

      God is most certainly good and just!

      If you did believe in a God who was just, then you would stake your hope on not taking revenge against those who have hurt you in this present life because ‘vengeance is mine; I will repay’ says the Lord. God is just! And he will repay everyone what they deserve.

      Yes, God will repay both in this life and in the one to come. God forbid that you or I should seek vengeance on anyone. We have enough wrath to avoid for our own sins.

      True, everyone will rise on the last day, but it doesn’t end there. Some will rise to eternal life and others will rise to destruction. Not purgatory. Not some temporal existence that will end and then God will accept them. It’s eternal. Hell is forever just as much as heaven is forever.

      You are merely reciting traditional heaven-or-hell doctrine. See instead what the Scriptures teach in The Biblical Case for Everyone Going to Heaven.

      Jesus talks about separating the sheep from the goats and about throwing fruitless branches into the fire while giving life to his own branches. Jesus talks about saying to people on the last day, ‘depart from me, you who work iniquity (sin); I never knew you.’ Strong words from Jesus, right?

      Yes, they are strong words – but they apply to seeking His kingdom and avoiding His wrath in this life, not what happens to us after this life.

      I just think your Christianity is too soft and mushy and worse, unbiblical and untrue. You have replaced traditional misunderstandings with modern misunderstandings in attempts to go against 2,000+ years of approved church doctrine, faith, and practice. Your doctrine has no place for predestination, a discussion of the elect, which Paul also talks about in several places.

      My words are not soft and mushy. Wrath and judgment are real. It is terrifying to be without God when His judgments come. I do not reject traditional understanding except when the Scriptures say differently. The conflict between the word of God and the traditions of men is a recurring one (see Matthew 15 and Mark 7). Predestination is true in that every human being is destined to live in heaven after this life just as every human being was destined to live on the earth in this life. There will be an elect in heaven for many who are first in this world will be last in heaven, and many who are last here will be first there.

      Please, for your sake and the sake of others, stop sharing this soft, false gospel that we are all God’s children and going to heaven. Please be a man and respond to this post (i have much more to send your way). But the truth of the matter is is that God has the final word, and He says he will have mercy on whom he chooses to have mercy; he will save those whom he foreknew and those whom he predestined to be his children.

      Yes, God will have the final word and I am glad that He does rather than you, because you seem to be saying that you wouldn’t be as merciful as He will. I remind you that He said mercy triumphs over judgment (James 2:13). We should imitate Him and be as merciful to others as He has been to us.

      God’s desire is that all would repent, but repentance entails a changed life, a new life, and you’re declaring by your faith that repentance doesn’t really matter. New life in Christ doesn’t really matter because everyone is going to heaven. And thus, sharing the gospel doesn’t really matter because everyone is already going to heaven.

      Repentance, faith, new life in Christ, and sharing the gospel are all of enormous importance because they can spare people from sin and wrath in this life and shame in the next.

      Mike, your false gospel is falling apart at the seams. Hell is real and eternal. If hell isn’t real and sin has no eternal consequences, than Christ died for nothing, and that’s a dangerously sad belief to hold to.

      Sin has consequences both in this life and the next. Please read the links I have given above and see how the Scriptures make this clear. Christ died to give us understanding of God and freedom from sin. Let us receive the inheritance He has left us!

  11. And if you don’t feel like responding to all of that, let’s break it down to this paragraph:

    How do you ‘interpret’ the ‘day of wrath’? A day where God’s wrath will be revealed (in the future) against all ungodliness and unrighteousness? I really don’t think you’re making a lot of God’s wrath by reducing it to some earthly experiences. First question: everyone experiences pain (loss of loved ones, relational issues, phyiscal problems) but I wouldnt describe this as ‘hell’, would you?

    Second question: Or is this whole life that we are in now, filled with tsunamis, earthquakes, suicides, murder, theft, adultery and the like, hell? That’s what it sounds like you are saying. That God’s wrath, indignation, and fury are present states here on the earth and that there is no hell for eternity apart from God’s presence. Is this true? If so, you are making too little of God’s wrath (the same wrath that flooded the earth and turned people into salt and killed people instantly) and in doing so, diminishing the beauty and worth of all that took place at the cross of Jesus (the averting of God’s wrath toward sin) FOR those who BELIEVE in him. Not for everyone. Please respond at least to this. Thanks.

    1. How do you ‘interpret’ the ‘day of wrath’? A day where God’s wrath will be revealed (in the future) against all ungodliness and unrighteousness? I really don’t think you’re making a lot of God’s wrath by reducing it to some earthly experiences. First question: everyone experiences pain (loss of loved ones, relational issues, physical problems) but I wouldn’t describe this as ‘hell’, would you?

      Second question: Or is this whole life that we are in now, filled with tsunamis, earthquakes, suicides, murder, theft, adultery and the like, hell? That’s what it sounds like you are saying. That God’s wrath, indignation, and fury are present states here on the earth and that there is no hell for eternity apart from God’s presence. Is this true?

      I think I answered this all above. If not, please let me know.

      If so, you are making too little of God’s wrath (the same wrath that flooded the earth and turned people into salt and killed people instantly) and in doing so, diminishing the beauty and worth of all that took place at the cross of Jesus (the averting of God’s wrath toward sin) FOR those who BELIEVE in him. Not for everyone. Please respond at least to this. Thanks.

      In this statement, you yourself are properly describing the wrath of God (i.e., flood, salt, death) as something that occurs in the earth. Why then do you elsewhere try to change its meaning and say it is something that applies in the afterlife?

  12. You are wrong. In the bible,Jesus say: Not everyone that says Lord,Lord will enter Heaven. Also, Jesus will judge and he will say:depart from me,you evil doers.What about the rich man in Hell,Jesus spoke of. He was in torement.Likewise.Also,read Revalations,There is a Hell,God says that all wickness and whoever practices sin is of the devil. Just believing there is a Jesus will not get you there,Jesus said that the devil believes. The last days many will be deceived by false prophets,like you, who are leading people on the wrong path.

  13. Mike

    It bothers me that everyone is NOT going to heaven, AND it bothers me that theology to the contrary is helping the opposite side of the spiritual battle in which we are engaged.

    You said… “Predestination is true in that every human being is destined to live in heaven after this life just as every human being was destined to live on the earth in this life.”

    Jesus teaches in John 10…

    24 The Jews then gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, “How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. 26 But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

    There are clearly people who are not Jesus’ sheep. Jesus’ sheep get eternal life. It does not say that the others get eternal life as well.

    Supporting verse… 1 John 5:12…

    “He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.”

    Rev 20:14-15 “Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”

    We die at the end of this life. That is the first death. Subsequently, there is the “second death” in which Hades and those whose name is not written in the book of life are thrown into the lake of fire. This verse is meaningless if you believe that everyone is going to heaven. I don’t believe in meaningless verses, and I don’t think you do either.

    These are but a few of many Scriptural examples which refute the false universal salvation message you are teaching. We need to come back to Scripture…

    John 3…

    14 As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

    16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18 He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”

    It is the believer who receives eternal life.

    Blessings
    Curt

    1. just believing wont get you to heaven

      john 3:17 doesnt say we are all going to heaven
      it says that the world MIGHT be saved

  14. Curt,

    You and I are agreed that in all these matters, it is Scripture that should guide our thinking. For this reason I have explained how the idea that everyone is going to heaven is found in the Scripture. Since this issue is important to you, I hope you will take time to review that explanation.  It is not just a post, but a book (the word count is just over 59,000).

    The Biblical Case for Everyone Going to Heaven

  15. If christians is the one true way to heaven , if you believe in Jesus. Then why are only 1.5 billion people christians. With nearly 7billion in the world that would leave 5.5 billion rotting in hell if the world ended today. What about all the Christian persecution that has happened? Think about the Church of England and how many people they murdered that didn’t follow thier dogmatic ways. Think about all who have died and were not christians, Heaven sure will be lonely with only about a quarter of the population. That is to say if the 1.5 are even true believers.

  16. I agree mike, wouldn’t you have to be physical to feel pain? The human body is dead and can not feel pain anymore. The spirit does not feel pain read in the bible for that! As I quoted before 1 corinthians 15:51 LIsten, I tell you a mystery. We will not ” all” sleep, but we will “all” be changed. “All” not some all, as you know it there are a lot of spirits asleep, they are the non believer’s, the believer’s are awake and ready for jesus to come an get them when there time is up. So continue on reading the bible everyday, pray to jesus and god everyday, and fellowship with other believer’s and share with non believer’s. Above all love everyone even yourselves human and spirit 🙂

  17. be ye not decieved, God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth that he reapeth

    everybody is not going to heaven. you need to read your bible more cleary.
    revelation speaks of hell and most of this world is going there

  18. if you want to go to heaven you need to repent of your sins, be baptized in the name of Jesus, and be filled with holy ghost, Acts 2: 38

    book of titus says to fight the good fight of faith and to lay hold upon eternal life

    were not magically going to heaven

    ecclesiastes: there is nothing new under the sun

  19. people are either going to heaven or hell

    bible says “i call heaven to record you this day, choose life or death”

    the bible speaks a lot about hell, and god’s word is forever settled

    issaiah 40:8 says the grass withereth and the flower fadeth but the word of god shall stand forever

  20. im not even an adult but i have the revelation of who jesus is and a sure salvation

    and salvation is so much more than accepting jesus as your savior

  21. im not even an adult but i have the revelation of who jesus is and a sure salvation

    and salvation is a lot more than accepting jesus as your savior

  22. Wow, what lively posts! Very simply, let the scriptures speak for themselves, keep your own thoughts, and thoughts from other people out of it. In very few instances will you read a word like “condemnation” and that “condemnation” not be spelled out for you.

    Several people quoted the scripture in John 3 about those who do not believe are condemned already. Keep reading, don’t think that you already know what that “condemnation” is already, or it will confuse you. In verse 19 of John 3 it tells you what the condemnation is:

    Jn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil.

    The condemnation is simply that light is here, but still mankind clings to darkness because they don’t want people to see their evil deeds.

    One person quoted where Jesus said fear him which is able to destroy both body and soul in hell. If you stop there you will be, well, in hell. Instead, keep reading, see what it says, it is most beautiful!

    Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? And not one of them shall fall to the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are more value than many sparrows.

    Brothers and Sisters, the good news of God (our Dad) is really good news. There is none of the bad that mankind tends to mix with it. Fear not, it’s our heavenly Dad we are talking about. It’s ok, his will is done on earth as it is in heaven. Remember, JC told us to say that when talking to our heavenly Dad. Nothings going wrong, he’s got our back.

  23. Your God? You mean our heavenly Dad? Yes, it is his will, those murdered by abortion, or those murdered at 99 years of age by failing organs, etc. Death is the one experience we must go through to go home to be with our heavenly Dad and all our other bros. and sis. And no matter how someone dies, it is still painful, and many are still going to blame God (our Dad) that he is unjust because he didn’t step in and stop it. Us humans value the life of our flesh deeply most of the time, even though JC told us that the flesh profits nothing, it is the spirit that makes us alive.

    Fortunately, the bible says that JC is the record that God has given us eternal life. How better to learn the value of that eternal life than experiencing it’s opposite, death? I used to think my parents and teachers, here on this earth, were cruel for the things they made me go through too, even though those things were for my benefit. Our heavenly Dad expects us to think he is cruel too when he puts us through hard lessons, but because his love for us is so great, he makes us go through them anyway for our benefit.

    This verse explains it best to me. Heb. 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruits of righteousness unto them that are exercised thereby.

    So…lift up those hands that hang lo, and the feeble knees. Don’t be too sad, all children are disciplined by their parents, we all got to go through this lesson of death. Those children who are aborted don’t have to wait for 99 years to see their Dad, their lesson here on this earth is short, but intense.

    1. Hebrews chapter 12 verse 11 reflects back to Christ enduring the opposition from sinful men. God uses that same opposition from sinful man and works it for good as we must endure the same opposition from sinful man and that is used for our chastening to be bold for Christ and his word.

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  24. Yes indeed. Those abortion doctors are the opposition whereby the aborted are chastened unto holiness. Theirs is a quick lesson. Hate to be one of them used to teach it.

    We are all chastened by God (our Dad) to turn from the work of the law and toward the work he has already accomplished as to our relationship to him. It is what Hebrews is about, the old covenant being what reveals death and the new covenant being what reveals life, and the difference between the two.

    The old covenant is the work of our hands, and God chastens and judges us accordingly, and no one passes under that agreement, as we all know that we ourselves fail many times. The new covenant is the work that God did as our Dad, our own efforts are no part of it, we can only believe it or not. If not, then you will probably turn back to the work of your hands to justify you before God and not the fact that you are his child, and you being his child is what justifies you before God. As long as you are confused about it, he will continue to chasten you until you come to that knowledge. Just like your own children, them being your children is what makes them perfect to you, not their deeds. This example and many like it is preached to every thinking, speaking person under heaven.

    At least, that is what I get out of Hebrews from reading it. A truly beautiful and peace inspiring book. Love the verse that says that he (JC) came to free those who were all their lifetime subject to bondage because they feared death. Totally awesome to know we do not need to fear death at all, it is the last enemy destroyed! Great to know that all that have experienced death are with our Dad in heaven. And it is great to know here on this earth that the flesh is not us, just something that we are clothed with for this present lesson (of dying). Once it has served it’s purpose it will return back to dust as it was. JC endured that great “contradiction of sinners” when he gave his life on the cross to give us this knowledge that God is our Dad, and we are his children, and that we have eternal life like Dad. If we refuse that knowledge spoken from the one from heaven, we can expect to continue to be chastened by our Dad until we understand that truth, even if that chastening is with the death of our flesh..

    1. This is the age of universalism. Many “religious” organizations and denominations are now leaning towards your way of thinking. You should be quite successful and swaying people away from the truth as revealed by the Holy Spirit. You have just enough to mixed in your doctrine as with any other heresy. You have been in my prayers and I will continue to pray for you. Sent from my iPhone

  25. Thanks brother. I don’t know much about universalism, but what I stated above is what I got out of reading the bible. And to the contrary to it being accepted, most people vehemently deny this message. Somehow people seem to be blind to the fact that us getting into heaven is based on who we are, not on what we do.

    On the sermon on the mount, JC said to say, Our Father, when praying to God. That sermon was preached to the multitudes on the mountain, not to those who had done something to be accepted, that identifies who God is, and who everyone else is too, without anything being done on our part.

    Even in Hebrews 12:8 the text says, “that if you are without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are you bastards, and not sons.” The text includes everyone as partaking in the chastisement of God.

    For some reason God saw it fit that most people still cling to darkness in this life, and only a few awake to Christ. Paul said the great mystery is Christ in you. The spirit that is within us is Christ, the child of God. Most do not come to the knowledge of this great mystery because the flesh veils their eyes from seeing it.

    Thanks again for talking to God for me. If you are happy where you are, I will not ask God to take you out of it, but if you would really like to know what God says then I will ask him to open your eyes to whatever it may be brother.

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